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  WT cash flow speculation

  by campaign of hate in

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  so it was reported that the wt made $60,000,000 in canada last year (?).

  working on the assumption that this figure is from not only donations, but from property revenues and other ventures from the branch, we get a figure of $528 per publisher, per year.

  the calculation: 60,000,000 / 113,617 (2014 av pubs) = $528 a year per publisher.

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  campaign of hate

  I did say it was a conservative estimate.

  I didn't include bethel facilities and assembly halls.

  That would rack up the numbers.
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  WT cash flow speculation

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so it was reported that the wt made $60,000,000 in canada last year (?).

  working on the assumption that this figure is from not only donations, but from property revenues and other ventures from the branch, we get a figure of $528 per publisher, per year.

  the calculation: 60,000,000 / 113,617 (2014 av pubs) = $528 a year per publisher.

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  campaign of hate

  So it was reported that the WT made $60,000,000 in Canada last year (?)

  Working on the assumption that this figure is from not only donations, but from property revenues and other ventures from the branch, we get a figure of $528 per publisher, per year. The calculation: 60,000,000 / 113,617 (2014 av pubs) = $528 a year per publisher. OR $44 per publisher, per month.

  The ACTUAL donated amount per publisher is probably much lower, but as i said, this takes into account all other ventures by the WT in Canada. Property sales etc.

  Logic would dictate, that because they are using the same business model (or near enough) in all western countries, you can use the same formula to work out how much revenue they receive in the U.S. I would guess you could use $528 as a benchmark figure of per publisher revenue in western countries, to work out how much that country theoretically will produce.

  For U.S. $528 x 1,186,598 (2014 av pubs) = $626,523,744.

  Is this got any credibility, or am i merely over speculating?

  Also, there is 13,871 congs in U.S. If you were to divide that figure by 6 (amount of congs per hall) you get 2,311 kingdom halls. if they sell all halls for $100,000, they have $231,100,000 in property assets. and that is a conservative estimate....Just in the U.S....
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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

  to funny nice job....

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  campaign of hate

  This behaviour is disgusting and counter productive, not to mention extremely juvenile.

  You got to ask yourself, how would I have felt being average joe publisher sitting in that meeting? In your mind, anything could have happened. A bomb. A gun. Any other physical abuse. It's probably the same feelings of agitation when your out in public and someone starts acting like a prick, and your not sure what is going to happen next.

  How where the jws to know it wasn't going to seriously kick off? With this in mind, I wouldn't have been surprised if these dick heads were wrestled to the ground and reprimanded until the police turned up. You know, disturbing the peace and all that.

  I hate seeing that behaviour anywhere in society. If you want to protest, do it peacefully outside.

  There is no room for this In 2015.
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses Happy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know of the local congregation's issues, per an elder i know quite well.

  he has said that nearly everyone in the congregation is suffering emotionally and mentally.

  he said he has never seen so many witnesses with so many problems.

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  campaign of hate

  I think there is a large proportion of depressed and miserable jws.

  Saying that, I have also met a shed load of happy jws. ...Deluded, but happy non the less.

  You can't paint 8 million people with the same brush.

  Just saying. ...
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  The art of being "Self referential" JW style....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you noticed how everything from the gb or witnesses in general is "self referential"?.

  by this i mean that they adopt the method of using their own quotes, facts, statistics, teachings, events etc....to "prove" the new points made!.

  so for example, a teaching point or doctrinal reference is brought out, and in order to "prove" it, the gb will use their own self referential past points to back it up!.

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  campaign of hate

  Yeah, it always confuses me when they quote themselves to back up a point.

  It's like saying. "This book was written 200 years ago. We can see evidence of this from the W89 2/15 article which says about this very same book. "It was indeed written 200 years ago". So we can clearly see, without a doubt, this book was written 200 years ago".

  Quite funny actually.
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  Do JWs suffer from Stockholm Syndrome?

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is what what it says on the tin.

  do jws suffer/are suffering, from stockholm syndrome?.

  getting abused (mentally) and then seem to form a relationship with the captives (wtbts).. there is also a condition called oslo syndrome, but haven't read up much about it.. personally, i think i might be suffering from the former.. would love to get a few opinions.....

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  campaign of hate

  This topic is what what it says on the tin. Do JWs suffer/are suffering, from Stockholm syndrome?

  Getting abused (mentally) and then seem to form a relationship with the captives (WTBTS).

  There is also a condition called Oslo syndrome, but haven't read up much about it.

  Personally, i think i might be suffering from the former.

  Would love to get a few opinions....
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  rumor out that governing body is going to adjust the loveing disfellowshiping arangment df yes shunning no.

  by poopie in

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  can anyone confirm they seem to be having disagreement writing dept and service dept some feel that df ok as long as you do not add wholesale across the board shunning regardless of the sin ..

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  campaign of hate

  If true, it could easily swing either way.

  Drop the shunning, become more liberal, membership skyrockets = The real money starts to come in.

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  Drop the shunning = Still stagnant growth, but more leave as they have nothing to be afraid of.

  We all know the GB are pretty money obsessed, and if they really are being controlled by lawyers and accountants, dropping the shunning could be a brilliant strategic business move.

  But.....I personally can't see it happening.
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  POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?

  by minimus in

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  i was just invited.

  i thanked my old elder friend and he left.

  (i'm not going).

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  Sadly yes.
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  Drugs and Alcohol Ruin Your Life

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this point was raised in another thread vaguely, and wanted to try and expand on it.. the wt has said (and rightly so in my opinion) "that excessive use of drugs and alcohol can ruin your life".

  in my eyes this is a fact.. this is where it starts to get a little suspicious, as they also say (or subtly hint at) "that if you leave the wt you will becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol and will ruin your life".. its almost like a self fulfilling prophecy.

  as there are a lot who leave the borg and they do start drinking heavy or smoking, or taking drugs...or whatever.. the wt capitalizes on the fact that people want more freedom, and they subtly ingrain the thought that.

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  campaign of hate

  This point was raised in another thread vaguely, and wanted to try and expand on it.

  The WT has said (and rightly so in my opinion) "that excessive use of drugs and alcohol can ruin your life"

  In my eyes this is a fact.

  This is where it starts to get a little suspicious, as they also say (or subtly hint at) "that if you leave the WT you will becoming addicted to Drugs and Alcohol and will ruin your life".

  Its almost like a self fulfilling prophecy. As there are a LOT who leave the Borg and they do start drinking heavy or smoking, or taking drugs...or whatever.

  The WT capitalizes on the fact that people want more freedom, and they subtly ingrain the thought that. drugs+alcohol=Freedom. But display it in a negative light. Albeit in the WT light.

  Then these same people leave, they overindulge in these vices, and inevitably end up in a pretty crappy situation. I'm not talking homeless, but next to no disposable income, no career direction, and pretty bad health.

  Then they remember. "The JWs were right all along, i am ruining my life..They warned me this would happen". They then return to the "Fold" and those aspects of their life get better. Better health as a result of taking better care of their bodies.

  This process can sometimes take 20 years to complete. And then they say. "The JWS saved my life"

  The result? These people, even though DFd, are still owned and controlled by the WTS, even though they do not associate with them.

  It's pretty damn clever, and it's mind control on an Industrial level

  There is a reason why the WT never highlights people who leave who start to eat healthier, exercise regularly, choose better life style choices, and get a good education. It's because these people would never return.
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  Inactive ones are not JWs

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  years ago, the insinuation was often presented, that those who were inactive were actually not witnesses at all.

  the point being made was that ''...winesses is a verb, not a noun...''.

  i know there were published assertions to this end in the older books and magazines, with possibly even quotes from the likes of rutherford or knorr ,.

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  campaign of hate

  Wouldn't be surprised if they soon they start treating inactive ones like they are did- fellowshiped.

  Perhaps they will automatically disassociate anyone who is irregular for 12 months.